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Hello Laura,

Thank you for your interest in the Ariel Performance Analysis System (APAS).  The APAS is a 3D video-based movement analysis system which accurately quantifies function and provides objective data the professional may use to justify or evaluate treatment.  Areas of successful application for the APAS include human performance, injury and rehabilitation assessment, quantification of loss for compensation claims, equipment and product testing and development, determination of potential or actual risks for products and activities in liability litigation, as well as applied research in the areas of orthopedic medicine, therapeutics, and physical training.

The APAS integrates state-of-the-art computer and video processing hardware with specialized software modules that perform data collection, analysis, and presentation.  Objective quantifiable documentation is provided for both 2-Dimensional and 3-Dimensional analysis.  Specific points of interest can be digitized with user intervention or automatically using contrasting markers.  Stick figures are then generated and can be synchronized with kinematics data.  Additionally, up to 32 channels of analog data (i.e. force platform, EMG, goniometers etc.) can be synchronized with the kinematics data.

The APAS product information can be found on the Ariel internet site (www.arielweb.com).  The direct address to several areas that might be of interest are listed below.

APAS Product Information
www.arielnet.com/Main/adw-04.html

Comparison of Commercially Available Systems
www.arielnet.com/topics/comparison/default.htm

Selected Applications Of APAS
www.arielnet.com/Main/adw-85.html

Selected Publications Utilizing the Ariel Technology
www.arielnet.com/Main/adw-86.html

APAS Price List
www.arielnet.com/Main/adw-54.html

Purchasing Options
www.arielnet.com/topics/FAQ/Purchasing_Options.htm


You can even download a full version of the APAS for a free 30 day trial.

Please review the information and feel free to contact us for any additional questions.

Sincerely,

John Probe

Ariel Dynamics, Inc.

4891 Ronson Court

Suite F

San Diego, CA 92111

Tel:  (858) 874-2547

Fax:  (858) 874-2549

Internet:  www.arielnet.com

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 8:32 AM


could you send me a brochure and a price list

thank you,

Laura Crawford

1205 N Ave A

Portales NM 88130

 

Return-Path: <stephen.stanley@ait.ac.nz>
From: "Steve Stanley" <stephen.stanley@ait.ac.nz>
Organization: Auckland Institute of Technology
To: Gideon Ariel <ariel1@ix20.ix.netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:50:13 +1200
Subject: Re: 2D analysis
Priority: normal

HI Gideon/John

Thanks for the weekend reply. Which files do I download off the
site, is it the full APASlight? or is there C3d files somewhere? I
could not find them. The file I originally unzipped was emailed from
John, not off the site.

Cheers Steve

Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:12:57 -0800
To: "Steve Stanley" <stephen.stanley@ait.ac.nz>
From: Gideon Ariel <ariel1@ix20.ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: 2D analysis
Cc: john@arielnet.com

Hi Steve:
The fact that it is single file in a zip might cause the problems. What
happened when you just download new rev from our web site and intstall it?
I am in Texas now but on Monday I am going to put a new revision that
will fix all these little things that happened on few computers.
Let me know
Gideon



At 10:44 AM 11/21/98 +1200, you wrote:
>Hi John
>
>Yes I extracted the single c3d file into the same directory as the
>older file. The same thing happened it would start for about half a
>second putting up an "untitled C3D" banner accross the top and then
>all dissapear, no error mesage, no programme etc. I move the old
>file back in and it worked fine, swapped them around and no go, then
>the old file back again and it worked fine. There was only the C3D
>file included in the zip file, should there be any support files
>also, eg library files etc?
>
>Cheers Steve
>Stephen Stanley MPhEd (Dist)
>Research Officer
>Faculty of Health Studies
>Auckland Institute of Technology
>Private Bag 92006
>Auckland
>New Zealand
>Ph +64 9 3079999 ext 7177
>Fax +64 9 3079988
>
>
Stephen Stanley MPhEd (Dist)
Research Officer
Faculty of Health Studies
Auckland Institute of Technology
Private Bag 92006
Auckland
New Zealand
Ph +64 9 3079999 ext 7177
Fax +64 9 3079988

 

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From: "Steve Stanley" <stephen.stanley@ait.ac.nz>
Organization: Auckland Institute of Technology
To: Ariel <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:44:29 +1200
Subject: Re: 2D analysis
Priority: normal

Hi John

Yes I extracted the single c3d file into the same directory as the
older file. The same thing happened it would start for about half a
second putting up an "untitled C3D" banner accross the top and then
all dissapear, no error mesage, no programme etc. I move the old
file back in and it worked fine, swapped them around and no go, then
the old file back again and it worked fine. There was only the C3D
file included in the zip file, should there be any support files
also, eg library files etc?

Cheers Steve
Stephen Stanley MPhEd (Dist)
Research Officer
Faculty of Health Studies
Auckland Institute of Technology
Private Bag 92006
Auckland
New Zealand
Ph +64 9 3079999 ext 7177
Fax +64 9 3079988

Hello Herb,
I will provide answers below each of your questions.
Please feel free to contact me for any additional information.
Sincerely,
 
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb Silver" <hlsilver@mindspring.com>
To: "Ariel" <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: Will any sales people be at the APTA combined sections meeting in San Antonio Feb 14 to 18th?

> So it looks like the force plate is an additional $15,950?  What are the
> Ariel Software Drivers--is that the basic software kit?
>
ADI:  The Basic software package includes the capability for both 2D and 3D analysis.  This software also supports automatic digitizing and support for panning cameras.  Analog capabilities (16 channel A/D, force platform, EMG etc) and software drivers for the JVC high speed cameras would be additional as listed below.
 
   Basic 2D/3D APAS (software only):   $5,000.00
   Basic 2D/3D APAS (computer, frame grabber & software):  $10,000.00
   16 Channel Analog Module (Hardware & Software):  $9,000.00
   Force Platform (Hardware 7 Software):  $15,950.00
   EMG Electrodes:  $750.00 each
   Ariel JVC Software Drivers:  $5,000.00

> What is the total cost if I wanted 2 highspeed cameras forceplate and
> software and I provided the computer hardware?
>
ADI:  Based on the prices listed above, this costs would be:
 
   Basic APAS Software Only:   $5,000.00
   2 JVC Cameras (w/Software Drivers):  $10,000.00
   Force Plate System (Hardware & Software):  $15,950.00
   Ariel 16 Channel Analog Module:  $9,000.00
   ====================================
   Total:  $39,950.00 USD
 
 
> What is the total cost of the system that produced the golf swing analysis?
>
ADI:  The Same APAS system can be used to analyze the golf swing.
 
>
> Can this same setup be used for batting, pitching, etc?
>
ADI:  Yes, this same system can be used to analyze any movement that can be recorded to video.
 
> Are there any further requirements for doing FCEs and clinical analysis of
> muscle fatigue/frequency shift spectrum analysis?
>
ADI:  Please refer to the following link for an FCE example using the APAS.
If you would like to communicate directly with Bob Wainwright, his Email address is:
 
You would also require electrodes for measuring the EMG activity.
 

> Does the included software allow for analysis needed for physical therapy
> evaluations or is additional software required?  I am most interested in
> reproducing some of the work done by Serge Roy, et al, at the BU kinesiology
> lab on back pain and I want to use that for FCEs as well?
>
ADI:  Depending on the exact analysis you would be providing, we also have the APAS-GAIT software module.  This software module supports the industry standard marker sets and produces data in standard formats.  The cost of this full module is $4,995.00 and also includes the APAS Renderer module.  Additional information can be found at the following address:
   APAS-Gait:  /Gait/index.html
   3D Renderer:  /Renderer/index.html
 
> Thanks in advance for your answers.
>
> Herb Silver, PT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ariel [
mailto:ariel1@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:30 PM
> To: Herb Silver
> Subject: Re: Will any sales people be at the APTA combined sections
> meeting in San Antonio Feb 14 to 18th?
>
>
> Hello Herb,
>
> Thank you for your interest in the Ariel Performance Analysis System (APAS).
> Currently, we are not scheduled to attend the APTA meeting in San Antonio.
>
> There are many options for purchasing the APAS:  Software only, Software
> w/computer, software will all the hardware etc.  The force plate is not
> included with the Basic APAS.  This would require the Basic APAS, 16 Channel
> Analog Module, and Force Plate system.
>
> I have attached a price list for your review.  Please feel free to contact
> us for any additional information.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John Probe
> Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
> Email: 
ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Silver" <
hlsilver@mindspring.com>
> To: <
ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 6:04 PM
> Subject: Will any sales people be at the APTA combined sections meeting in
> San Antonio Feb 14 to 18th?
>
>
> > I am looking into purchasing you APAS system.  Does it come with force
> > plates--if not, how much for this addition?
> >
> > Also, all the software listed for gait analysis, etc, the site says "all
> > software included" but I was not sure if that was the "basic software" or
> if
> > the list of software underneath was included as well.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>

Return-Path: <dgordon@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>

From: "Don Gordon" <dgordon@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>

To: "Ariel" <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>

Subject: Re: APAS-CES software

Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:05:31 +0800

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Dear John I will remove the computer from the rest of the system and transport it home to allow a modem connection with your system. If you could please let us know your GMT so a mutual time can be set up. Perth in Western Australia is at GMT +8.00. Sincerely Don Gordon Electronic/Computer Technician Human Movement Department University of Western Australia

If possible, we would like to avoid having the hard drive sent to our office. Just the shipping charges will cost more than the drive is worth! Additionally, it opens the possibility for loss or damage during shipment. It also means that your "down-time" will be several weeks instead of several days.

Is it possible to connect to a fax line in the University? Or, possibly to move the computer to another location that supports the modem connection (home or another office)?

Based on your description, it appears that we could correct the problem over the modem in 15 or 20 minutes for no cost (other than the phone charges). Please let me know if this is a possibility!

Sincerely,

John Probe

 At 04:48 PM 11/19/98 +0800, you wrote:

>>>>

Dear John Thankyou for your prompt replies and the instructions for the use of the closeup6 software. Unfortunately the University operates through a PBAX phone system where modem connections are not available. After discussion with staff within the department it has been decided to remove the hard drive from the AST computer and return the hard drive to Ariel Dynamics for servicing. If there are any problems with this arrangement could you please e-mail me ASAP. Regards Don Gordon Electronic/Computer Technician Human Movement Department University of Western Australia Dear Don;

You will have to establish modem connection to our office and then we will fix it. Don't do anything until we try to fix it through the modem

Hope to hear from you

Gideon Ariel

 

At 11:47 AM 11/18/98 +0800, you wrote:

>>>>

Dear Sir/Madam Currently we are running the Ariel APAS-CES software on a AST Bravo 486/25 BIOS Rel 1.10 with 4 MByte of RAM. The system has been performing smoothly for numerous years until now. The system boots to the DOS menu where the APAS-CES software is selected. The software continues to load until the sysmenu.exe needs to be executed. At this stage the system sounds a short beep and hangs with a blank screen. If you use Ctrl+Break, the menu appears. The sysmenu.exe file is 167,138 bytes in size and is dated 3-26-96. If any of the software is selected using the APAS pull down menu, the number 14000 briefly flashes on the screen followed by the system hanging. A reboot is required at this stage. Can you give us any possible solution to the above. Yours Sincerely Don Gordon Electronic/Computer Technician Human Movement Department University of Western Australia

 

 

Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:09:40 +1000
From: Jennifer Manning <jennifer.manning@dtsy.qld.gov.au>
To: gideon@arielnet.com
Subject: Hi and Help!!!
Content-Disposition: inline

Hi Gideon,
It is Jennifer Manning from the Queensland Academy of Sport in Australia. Our new upgrade of the APAS system has been working really well. That was until my computer crashed and I lost all of the programs I had installed on my computer. I have reinstalled the program however, need to get the new codes from you.
The site code I have is DBEA 94C5 7FB7 1E65 86 and the
Key Code is TOOOOOOX-OMTJ56. I hope this is not too much trouble for you.
Thank you for your assistance and looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Regards,
Jennifer Manning




Jennifer Manning
Scientific Officer - Biomechanics
Performance Enhancement Centre
Queensland Academy of Sport
PO Box 8103 Woolloongabba QLD 4102
Ph: 07 3404 3239 Fax: 07 3404 3205
Email:manninj@dtsy.qld.gov.au

 

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Ariel Dynamics, Inc.

4891 Ronson Court

Suite F

San Diego, California 92111 USA

(619) 874-2547 Tel

(619) 874-2549 Fax

Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com

Web Site: http://www.arielweb.com

+++++++++++++++++++++


Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:38:18 +1000 (EST)
From: Kevin Ness <Kevin.Ness@jcu.edu.au>
To: Gideon Ariel <gideon@arielnet.com>
Subject: Re: your mail

Hello Gideon,

No problem all went well with 9.1. (actually 9.0 installed OK this morning
- no problem with setup. I don't think I did anything different from
yesterday - I just ran setup again from my temp directory.)

Any idea of the cost of Computer Board Inc. A/D converter?

You had better tell me how to pay for the APAS software - because if I
don't spend the money very soon they (the uni) will take it back. I was
at the AIS (Australian Institute of Sport) about a week ago. An ex-student
of mine is using the APAS system for kinematic analysis of various track
and field athletes. He's happy with it. I trust his judgement - he was my
best student. I don't have the time over the next month to give it a full
test drvie myself. So let me know the details and I'll organise the
payment.

Regards, Kevin.

From: suncg@medicine.snu.ac.kr (Sun G. Chung)
To: "Gideon Ariel" <gideon@arielnet.com>
Subject: Re: About site code.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:58:39 +0900
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Dear Dr. Ariel,

It works so fine on the APAS98 but is not accepted on APAS-dos.
Are the code same for the APAS98 and APAS-dos?

Sun

Hi Sun:
The code is different for DOS and Windows. YOu must generate a site code for DOS so we can issue you the Site Key for DOS
Let me know
Gideon




Hello Steve and John,

I am assuming that you are using the Intel Smart Video Pro III capture
board. This message sometimes occurs after additions or deletions to the
software and can be resolved by re-installing the software for the Intel
frame grabber. I do not think there is anything wrong with your video cables.

Please let me know your results.

Sincerely,

John Probe



>X-Sender: arielnt1@pop-ext.FOUR.net
>Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 10:11:55 -0800
>To: steve.blackburn@sunderland.ac.uk (BLACKBURN Steve)
>From: Gideon Ariel <gideon@arielnet.com>
>Subject: Re: FW: Advise about auto-digitising
>Cc: jbrond@pop.mfi.ku.dk, Wise80x86@aol.com, john@arielnet.com
>
>Hi Steve:
> We will analyze it and send you advise.
> Gideon
>
>
>At 09:06 AM 1/19/99 GMT, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> ----------
>>From: RUSHWORTH John
>>To: BLACKBURN Steve
>>Subject: RE: Advise about auto-digitising
>>Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 8:55AM
>>
>>steve,
>>Can you send this onto Gideon.
>>The connection on the VCR rear panel is a RS 232 type. Since we have
>>problems capturing the video images there must be a cable that is not
>>functioning properly. There are two cables coming out of the rear VCR
panel
>>and into the computer base unit. Therefore it is likely to be one of
these
>>that is problamatic as when attempting to activate the Capture module in
>>the windows 95 setting there is a message saying PROBLEM CONNECTING TO VCR.
>>
>>Since we can operate the video to play images on the monitor screen by
>>pressing the play, stop function buttons on the VCR itself and not from
>>using the mouse buttons and the function keys present in the Capture module
>>there must be a problem with one of the cables. Therefore the cable that
>>allows the video image to be viewed is fine but there is a problem with the
>>cable that allows you to control the image and therefore capture the
desired
>>frames by using the function keys within the Capture program. I think that
>>this cable is the one that goes from the computer base unit parallel port
to
>>the RS 232 adaptor on the back of the VCR and not the cable that connects
>>the S-VHS port on the VCR to the S-VHS port of the Video card on the base
>>unit.
>>
>>Can you send this message to Gideon or John Probe and distinguish which
>>cable allows the computer to control the VCR function keys. Also we need
to
>>know what type of cable this is so that we can order a new one and solve
the
>>problem.
>>
>>Thanks
>>John.
>> ----------
>>From: BLACKBURN Steve
>>To: RUSHWORTH John
>>Subject: FW: Advise about auto-digitising
>>Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 2:58PM
>>
>>
>> ----------
>>From: Gideon Ariel
>>To: BLACKBURN Steve
>>Cc: john
>>Subject: Re: Advise about auto-digitising
>>Date: Monday, January 11, 1999 4:19PM
>>
>>Hi Steve:
>> You should be able to controll the VCR. What connection do you have?
>>RS-232?
>>Did you download our newest version from our web site?
>>What cable are you using.?
>> Hope to hear from you
>>Gideon
>>
>>
>>At 10:34 AM 1/11/99 GMT, you wrote:
>>>
>>>Dear Gideon,
>>>
>>>Thanks for advise you gave me earlier. I have another problem which you
my
>>
>>>be able to help me with. I am using the APAS for Windows system but I am
>>>having difficulties controlling the VCR from the computer, thus I am
unable
>>
>>>to capture any data. Could you tell me whether the connection from S-VHS
>>>Out to the computer is a special type of cable, as a technician has
already
>>
>>>tried to repair once before.
>>>
>>>I will be grateful of any help you can offer.
>>>
>>>Yours
>>>
>>>Steve
>>>


Hi Gail,

The hardware that we are currently using is as follows:
   Pentium/PentiumII 200MHz (or greater)
   16 MB RAM (minimum)
   2 GB Hard Drive (or greater)
   Iomega Buz Capture Card
   Windows 98

The current software should work on your current hardware, assuming that
you pugrade the software to Windows 95/98. The hard disk that you have 850
MB is getting to be pretty small. I would recommend that you get a minimum
of a 2GB hard drive, preferably 4GB or more.

Do you plan on installing the software on the Pentium 75 computer? Or, are
you going to use a completely new computer and leave the "old" P75 for a
workstation?

The easiest method to purchasse the software would be to send us a check
for the $500 and download the software from the internet. As soon as we
receive full payment for the software, we will issue a SITE KEY (by Email)
to "unlock" the software for unlimited use. Without the SITE KEY, the
software will work for a period of 14 days from installation.

Please contact me for any additional information or if you need a faxed
quotation.

Sincerely,

John Probe


At 08:50 AM 1/19/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi John,
>
>Thanks for your message. Since we last talked we've bought a
>new capture card, one that we're sure is compatible with Windows
>98, so we're back in business. I think we'd like to upgrade our
>software. Are there any hardware specifications we should know
>about, before we do? Assuming we want to go ahead, what would
>be the easiest way to order and pay for the upgrade?
>
>Cheers!
>Gail
>
>> Hi Gail,
>>
>> How have things been going since the last time we communicated?
>>
>> I understand from Gideon that you are interested in the $500 upgrade to
>> your APAS system. I just wanted to make certain that you knew this was
>> software only! There is no hardware included for this price.
>>
>> Please contact either Gideon or myself for any additional information.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> John Probe
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
>> 4891 Ronson Court
>> Suite F
>> San Diego, California 92111 USA
>> (619) 874-2547 Tel
>> (619) 874-2549 Fax
>> Email: ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
>> Web Site: http://www.arielweb.com
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>***********************************************
>Gail Frost, PhD
>School of Recreation Management and Kinesiology
>Acadia University
>Wolfville, NS
>B0P 1X0 (902) 585 1560
>
>

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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:30:38 -0800
To: Ant�nio Veloso <apveloso@mail.telepac.pt>
From: Ariel <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Proforma invoice
Cc: gideon@arielnet.com
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by FOUR.net id SAA12254

Hello Antonio,

Attached you will find the requested prices to add the Ariel Analog module
to your existing system. Please remember the items we discussed on the
telephone.

   1. There are only 2 slots available (1 ISA and 1 PCI)
   2. The current A/D card we sell is PCI version
   3. If you add a network card, it must be ISA model.
   4. I will check on the compatibility with Bertec Plates.

I recommend that you personally check the computer to make certain that I
am correct.

Listed below you will find the requested quotation.

Please contact me for any additional information.

Sincerely,

John Probe

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
                
PROFORMA INVOICE #990119AV             
                
To:     J.A. Veloso Lda.             
     Attn: Antonio Veloso             
     Phone: 011 351 1 458 0902             
     Fax: 011 351 1 458 0902             
                
ITEM   #   ITEM DESCRIPTION   Unit$    PRICE         
                
                
1   1   ARIEL Analog - 16 A/D Channels Hardware & Software $9,000.00
   Includes:               
     Internal A/D Converter Board (PCI Version)
     Ariel 16 Channel A/D Input Box & Cable
     ARIEL Analog Software Module  
                
----------------------------------------------------------
                
     SUB TOTAL:      $9,000.00
                
     SHIPPING CHARGES:   $195.00         
-----------------------------------------------------------
                
     TOTAL BALANCE:   $9,195.00       

                
Notes:   50% Payment Required With Purchase Order, Balance Prior To Shipping
     Prices Listed in USD
     Price Quotation Valid For 30 Days and Supercede Any Previous Quotes

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =



At 10:23 PM 1/19/99 +0000, you wrote:
>Hello John
>
>Please send me the prices of the analogue board to add to the system we just
>receive. Remember that it should work with a Bertec force plate. We need
>this prices urgently
>
>
>The Apas System was sold to:
>
>Faculdade de Ciencias do Desporto e de Educa��o F�sica da Universidade do
Porto
>(Faculty of Sport sciences and Physical Education Oporto University
>Biomechanics Department
>Head: Jo�o Paulo Vilas-Boas PhD
>Adress: Rua Dr. Pl�cido Costa, 91,
>4200 Porto
>Phone: int 351 2 5500677
>
>Tanks
>
>Best regards
>
>Ant�nio

Hello Dr. Chung,

How are you? We are all doing fine. I will provide answers to your
questions below.

>Would you like to answer my questions below?
>
>Where can I find the file format of basic files of APAS that is *.3d,
*.1t, *.ana, *.cf.
> I remember that they were somewhere in your HOmepages. Now, your
homepage grew so large that I cannot find them. Could you tell me the place
or give me the information?
>
The address for the APAS-DOS manuals is:
/APAShelp/DOS/adw-56.html
You should look in the Appendix section and you will find the file formats.

Hello Doug,

I will provide answers below each of your questions.
At 10:41 AM 4/23/99 +1000, you wrote:
>John
>
>John
>
>Sorry to keep bothering you.
>
>Have talked to my boss - he has given the OK to download one package
>initially ( due to budget constraints) but we will buy more in the near
>future.
>
This sounds good!


>The computer that is dedicated to APAS is not on the Net. Are there any
>problems associated with downloading the software to another PC and then
>transfering the software to the APAS PC via direct cable link?
>
There are no problems with downloading the software and transferringit to
any number of computers.  The software downloaded from the internet is
valid for 30 days from the date of installation.  The file that you
download is in a self extracting zip file.


>I am considering renewing the Windows 95 software and the Office
>applications on the APAS PC prior to the download. Do you invisage problems
>being created in doing this?
>
If possible, I would recommend that you install the software on a new
computer.  There are no problems expected, however, I would not want you to
be without an APAS in case there were any problems.


>Does the new APAS software support > 8 character file names?
>
Yes, the new software is 32 bit applications designed for Windows 95/98.
Long file names are fully supported.


>Is it necessary remove all traces of the old version of the APAS software on
>the APAS PC before loading the new software?
>
Actually, I think you can install the new version in addition to the
existing version.  I will check your equipment file when I get to the
office tomorrow to make certain.

>Will the new software have the Dos modules included?
>
The APAS DOS software can also be downloaded from the internet.  The DOS
software will require an additional Site Key but there is no extra charge.

I hope this information is helpful.  Please contact me for any additional
questions.

Sincerely,

John Probe





>Thanks for your help so far
>
>doug
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ariel [mailto:ariel1@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Friday, 23 April 1999 9:00
> To: Doug Rosemond
> Subject: RE: Zip Drive
>
> Hello Doug,
>
> This is an answer to both questions.  If you plan on
>attending the ISBS in
> Perth, you could possibly take the Zip Disk with you and let
>Dr. Ariel
> attempt to resolve the problems.  You would have to
>communicate directly
> with Dr. Ariel on this issue.
>
> I think the most efficient solution would be to download the
>latest
> software.  This would also provide you with all the latest
>updates.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John Probe
>
>
> At 03:43 PM 4/22/99 +1000, you wrote:
> >John
> >
> >Is the proposal an answer to the failed Zip drive or an
>answer to the cost
> >of upgrading ot the ISBS software offer or an answer to
>both?
> >
> >Doug
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gideon Ariel
>[mailto:ariel1@ix.netcom.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 22 April 1999 14:24
> > To: Doug Rosemond
> > Subject: Re: Zip Drive
> >
> > Hello Doug,
> >
> > I have discussed your situation with Dr.
>Ariel.  He
> >suggested that you
> > download the latest version of software from
>the Ariel
> >internet site for a
> > cost of $500 USD per computer.  This
>software normally sells
> >for $5,000.00
> > USD.
> >
> > This will allow you to put the software on
>any number of
> >systems that you
> > have in your lab for minimal cost.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > John Probe
> >
> >
> >
> > At 05:16 PM 4/21/99 +1000, you wrote:
> > >Hello john
> > >
> > >Have you got any news on failed Zip disk?
> > >
> > >Also - is it possible for the AIS pay for
>an upgrade ot the
> >ISBS system
> > >offer - if so what would it cost per item?
> > >
> > >Doug
> > >
> > >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > John Probe
> > Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
> > 4891 Ronson Court
> > Suite F
> > San Diego, California  92111  USA
> > (619) 874-2547 Tel
> > (619) 874-2549 Fax
> > Email:  ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
> > Web Site:  http://www.arielnet.com
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
>
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
4891 Ronson Court
Suite F
San Diego, California  92111  USA
(619) 874-2547 Tel
(619) 874-2549 Fax
Email:  ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
Web Site:  http://www.arielnet.com
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hi Gideon;

Indeed, it was the problem.
I have another problem however: In the process of installing the new version it seems that I lost the capability of transferring the license to another directory. Whenever I execute a program and get to the licensing panel, the license option is not available anymore. I have this on 3 of the 6 workstations I have!  I have attached a jpeg file to show you what I get. Hence, I cannot update these workstations and this is a real drawback!

Also, I reported an installation bug on all workstation but the NT (unable to install APAS on another directory thant that proposed). I think I found the problem. It may be helpful to some of your customers. I don't have the problem if I disconnect the workstation from the networks ( I have a Banyan Vines server and a NT server).

Regards,
Normand
At 16:30 29-04-99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Normand:
>  This is the problem. The new 3.2 is from 4/27/99
>Gideon
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Normand Teasdale <Normand.Teasdale@pmh.ulaval.ca>
>To: Gideon Ariel <gideon@arielnet.com>
>Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 10:34 AM
>Subject: Re: Fw: Take two!
>
>
>> Hi Gideon,
>>
>>
>> 06-04-99! for vector
>> 06-04-99 for analog as well
>>
>> I wanted to transfer my license to another computer but I don't have the
>license option anymore! I have included in attach  a jpg file to show you
>that the license program says that my license is still fine but I don't
>have the license option anymore. Any idea?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Normand
>>
>> At 10:21 29-04-99 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Hi Normand:
>> >  What is the date on your vector.exe program?  You will find it at
>> >c:\program files\ariel dyanamics\apas\
>> >Let me know
>> >Gideon
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Jeremy Wise <jeremy@arielnet.com>
>> >To: Normand Teasdale <Normand.Teasdale@pmh.ulaval.ca>
>> >Cc: Gideon Ariel <gideon@arielnet.com>
>> >Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 8:25 AM
>> >Subject: Re: Take two!
>> >
>> >
>> >> Normand-
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for letting us know. It sure sounds like the files did not make
>it
>> >on
>> >> to the WEB site, or possibly you downloaded them before they were
>placed
>> >> there. We will check into it.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for your patience.
>> >>
>> >> Jeremy
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Normand Teasdale <Normand.Teasdale@pmh.ulaval.ca>
>> >> To: jeremy@arielnet.com <jeremy@arielnet.com>
>> >> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 3:00 PM
>> >> Subject: Take two!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Hi Jeremy;
>> >> >
>> >> >I've checked with Gideon and he told me that your changes were on
>version
>> >> 3.2 on the web site. I've downloaded ver 3.2 and unless I am stupid
>both
>> >> problems are not fixed. I can work my around the sampling problem but
>not
>> >> the problem with vector. I suspect there has been a problem in putting
>the
>> >> updated version on the web as the PAL switch you mention in your
>previous
>> >> e-mail is not available. Thanks for checking this out.
>> >> >
>> >> >Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> >Normand
>> >> >
>> >> >Normand Teasdale (Normand.Teasdale@kin.msp.ulaval.ca)
>> >> >Universit� Laval, Laboratoire de performance motrice humaine, PEPS
>> >> >Facult� de m�decine
>> >> >D�partement de m�decine sociale et pr�ventive
>> >> >division de Kin�siologie
>> >> >Qu�bec, Qu�bec G1K 7P4
>> >> >T�l: (418) 656-2147
>> >> >Fax: (418) 656-2441
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
>
>> Normand Teasdale (Normand.Teasdale@kin.msp.ulaval.ca)
>> Universit� Laval, Laboratoire de performance motrice humaine, PEPS
>> Facult� de m�decine
>> D�partement de m�decine sociale et pr�ventive
>> division de Kin�siologie
>> Qu�bec, Qu�bec G1K 7P4
>> T�l: (418) 656-2147
>> Fax: (418) 656-2441
>

 

Hello Paul,

I am writing to inform you that Ariel Dynamics Inc. has received payment in
full ($7,000 USD) for your order of 1 master APAS license and 4 APAS
workstations.

You can download the software directly from the Ariel internet site and
install on your computers.  You only need to download the file one time.
This single file can be used to install the software on ALL your computers.

When you install the software it will be valid for a period of 30 days from
installation.  Anytime during the 30 days, you can supply Ariel Dynamics
with the System Parameter and Site Code numbers for each computer.  We can
use these numbers to generate a Site Key that will "un-lock" your software
for unlimited use.

The System Paramter number is found by selecting the APASCES icon within
the APAS-System folder.  The Site Code can be found by selecting ANY Ariel
software module and pressing the ENTER key when you see the message stating
how many days are left on your trial license.  Accept the license agreement
and then select Display Site Code.

Thank you for your purchase and please do not hesitate to contact me for
any additional information.  I look forward to receiving the information
for your 5 computers.

Sincerely,

John Probe




At 10:50 AM 4/12/99 +1000, you wrote:
>John
>
>Sorry for the delay in responding, I have raised an order for the software,
>this will be initially for one master system and an additional 4 copies
>thus a total of 5 copies.
>
>You should receive an order very shortly in the mail, we will download the
>software in a couple of weeks when our new computers arrive
>
>We will need an invoice to provide payment, send the invoice once you have
>the order
>
>Company/University Name:RMIT
> Company/University Address:124 Latrobe St Melbourne Vic 3000
> Contact Person:Paul Brown
> Phone Number:03 99257355
> Fax Number:03 94768181
> Email:paul_brown@rmit.edu.au
> Web Site: http://www.bh.rmit.edu.au/hms/
>
>Paul Brown
>Resources & Communication Manager
>Department of Human Biology & Movement Science
>Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology
>Plenty Rd Bundoora,3083, Melb., Vic., Aust.
>
>Phone   (03) 99257355
>Fax    (03) 94678181
>Mobile 0408 531060
>Email   paul_brown@rmit.edu.au
>
>Web Address http://www.bh.rmit.edu.au/hms/
>
>
>
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
4891 Ronson Court
Suite F
San Diego, California  92111  USA
(619) 874-2547 Tel
(619) 874-2549 Fax
Email:  ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
Web Site:  http://www.arielweb.com
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hi Normand:
  Thank you for your message and it was nice to hear from you.
Of course !!! The Buz already has the SCSI card in it, so you need only to
get the Jaz drive and you can download directly to the cartridge at normal
speed.
Gideon

----- Original Message -----
From: Normand Teasdale <Normand.Teasdale@pmh.ulaval.ca>
To: <gideon@arielnet.com>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 12:30 PM
Subject: APAS and JAZZ from Iomega


> Dear Gideon/John,
>
> Simple question. The more I work with APAS the more I enjoy it. There is
only one drawback: the more I work with it and the greater the storage
problems are getting! -:)
>
> In order to get some flexibity, I was thinking about buying an external
ultra-SCSI Jazz drive. Iomega states that it has transfer bursts going up to
20 Mb/s with the slowest rate being 4.9 Mb/s. Have you tried to realcap
directly to a Jazz drive? if not, do you think it could be possible? Is
there anyway to realcap in B/W in order to cut on the demands of realcap?
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Regards
>
> Normand
>
>
> Normand Teasdale (Normand.Teasdale@kin.msp.ulaval.ca)
> Universit� Laval, Laboratoire de performance motrice humaine, PEPS
> Facult� de m�decine
> D�partement de m�decine sociale et pr�ventive
> division de Kin�siologie
> Qu�bec, Qu�bec G1K 7P4
> T�l: (418) 656-2147
> Fax: (418) 656-2441
>

Hello Dr. Oscar Rocha Barbosa.

The APAS software was originally desiged to capture images using a computer
controlled VCR.  At this time, only Panasonic manufactured the necessary
VCR with the computer control interface.  For this reason, we standardized
the APAS on the Panasonic equipment.  However, with the new advances in
video technology, the APAS no longer requires the computer controlled VCR.
Images can be captured in Real Time directly to the hard disk using the
Iomega Buz supplied with your system.

Your APAS computer was shipped with APAS98 Revision 9.5 software.  We have
had many improvements and are currently shipping APAS99 Revision 3.5
software.  Ariel Dynamics always provides free software upgrades to our
customers.  Therefore, I recommend that you download the latest version
from the Ariel internet site (www.arielweb.com) and install it on your
computer using the following steps.

1.  Select START, SETTINGS and CONTROL PANEL.
2.  Double-Click on the ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS icon
3.  Select the APAS SYSTEM software and then click on the ADD/REMOVE button.
4.  Click YES to Completely Remove APAS System and all of its components.
5.  Select NO when asked to Remove Shared Files
6.  Select OK and then OK to exit the ADD/REMOVE Programs.
7.  Download the latest version of APAS from www.arielweb.com to a
temporary directory.  This file is currently APAS99WIN3_5.EXE
8.  Execute the APAS99WIN3_5.EXE file to decompress the system files to the
C:\TEMP directory.
9.  Select START, RUN and C:\TEMP\SETUP.EXE to install the software,
10.  Select NEXT and YES to accept the License Agreement.
11.  You can enter your name and Company and Serial Number if desired but
this is not required.  Select NEXT to proceed.
12.  Accept the default destination folder of C:\PROGRAM FILES\ARIEL
DYNAMICS\APAS and select NEXT to proceed.
13.  Accept the APAS SYSTEM folder name and select NEXT to proceed.
14.  Select OK to install the program.
15.  Select FINISH to complete the installation.

The APAS SYSTEM folder will be created on the Windows Desktop.  Double
click this folder to access the APAS software modules.

The APAS99 Revision 3.5 software provides two software modules for
capturing images to the hard disk.  These programs are called REALCAP and
CAPTURE.  I recommend that you use the STREAMING function in the CAPTURE
module.  You can access the HELP menu to provide step-by-step intructions
for image capture.

You can also find on-line manuals and Tutorials directly on the Ariel
internet site.

Please feel free to contact me for any additional information.  We are
always happy to help!

Sincerely,

John Probe

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
4891 Ronson Court
Suite F
San Diego, California  92111  USA
(858) 874-2547 Tel
(858) 874-2549 Fax
Email:  ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
Web Site:  http://www.arielweb.com
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hello Dr. Nissan,

I will provide answers marked Ariel Dynamics, Inc (ADI) below each of your
questions.


At 01:15 PM 7/26/99 +0300, you wrote:
>Dear Ariel:
>
>I'll be most gratefull for a fast help.  We are using a BUZ and Canon
>UC-V10 type cameras. I was trying to use the RealCap but could not
>start.
>
ADI:  The Iomega Buz must be installed in a precise order (software first,
then hardware, then an update file).  Was this done correctly?  The precise
instructions are listed on the Ariel internet site at the following address:

/topics/FAQ/I_Omega_Buz_Installation.htm


>1) I got a message it is day 1 of 90.  Does it mean in 90 days I'll have
>to re-enter the same code? another?
>
ADI:  Yes, this message means that you have a 90 day "trial" license.
After the 90 day period, the license can be extended by purchasing a "full"
license.


>2)  I got a black picture  with a green upper-left corner while the VCR
>is on.
>
ADI:  I have not seen any errors like this before.  Please make certain
that the correct steps were followed when installing the Iomgea Buz.  You
should also check the Iomega internet site (www.iomega.com) to make certain
that the Buz will work with your hardware.  There are some known problems
with the Buz and selected hardware.


>3)  I choose "enable" in the capture preferences but could not keep it
>like that next time I was looking at capture.  The same with all other
>choices. How can I keep my choices as preferences?
>
ADI:  The Enable command allows computer control of the VCR.  It must be
the correct make and model of VCR (Panasonic 7350 or 5700) with the RS-232
connectors.  What is the make and model of the VCR you are connecting to
the APAS.


>4)  The picture remains black but I get a red or orange square at the
>middle.
>
ADI:  This does not sound familiar.  Make certain that you have the correct
settings under Video Format and Video Source.  This sounds like it might be
set to the wrong format.


>5)  pressing any of the computer "tape buttons" resulted in an error
>message:  "the program has perforned an illegal operation and will be
>shut down".  The details were: "invalid page fault in module
>RealCap.EXE at 0137:0040f6de".
>
ADI:  What type of computer and graphics adapter are you using?


Please let us know the answers to the questions above as this may help
diagnose the reported problem.

Sincerely,

John Probe
Email:  ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com

Hello Mr. Balmer,

Thank you for your message.  Please provide a detailed explaination as to
why you are "unable to proceed" with operating the APAS software.  This may
help us determine any problems and assist you in operating the APAS system.

Is the problem with the software installation?  Or, in operating the software?
What operating system are you using (Win95/98 WinNT)?

In order to assist customers, each APAS module has an integrated help
screen.  There are also help screens on the Ariel internet site:

www.arielweb.com/Main/adw-91.html

There is also on-line tutorials at the following address:

www.arielweb.com/topics/Tutorials/default.htm

I hope this information is helpful.

Sincerely,

John Probe
Email:  ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com



At 02:09 PM 8/16/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Dear Sir/Madam
>
>I am a lecturer of sports biomechanics at Canterbury Christ Church
>University College and I ma interested in acquiring the APAS system for
>teaching and research purposes. I have attempted to download the
>software and have completed the installation procedure. However I am
>unable to proceed. I have read the information provided on your website
>and the system software appears to be exactly what I require, however I
>would like to discuss with you what my requirements involve and which
>items I ish to purchase, please can you get back to me as soon as
>possible or give me a contact address/phone number for your UK
>distributor.
>
>Yours Faithfully
>
>James Balmer
>----------------------
>jb10@canterbury.ac.uk
>
>

8-23-99

JOHN,

Downloaded the 3mjpeg.zip file from the site you gave me (listed below).
Where should I install this driver??  I assume I can just unzip it in the correct
folder / subdirectory.

Thanks,
John Garhammer

Ariel wrote:

> Hello John,
>
> The monitor resolution should not present any problems with the setting
> that you are using.
>
> John
>
> >>
> >> >(2) Saved the trim and copied the resulting AVI file to a zip disk to
> >> >work on - digitize on my office computer. But when I try to load the
> >> >file in trim or digitize module on my office computer I get the message
> >> >"Unable to Locate Compatible Video DeCompressor" followed by odd / even
> >> >field order question??
> >> >
> >> Yes, this message is normal also. It simply means that your system does not
> >> have a compatible video driver.  Please refer to the following internet
> >> address for assistance:
> >>
> >>     www.arielweb.com/topics/FAQ/Installing_Video_Driver.htm
> >>
>
> >

Hello Costas Rigas,

I will provide answers below each of your questions.

Sincerely,

John Probe
Email:  ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com



At 12:20 PM 11/17/1999 +0200, you wrote:
>Dear John Probe

Question 1
===========
>Am I right that we need three or four video cameras to achieve 3D bilateral
>gait recording?
>
Answer 1
=========
The software requires a minimum of 2 cameras to obtain 3-dimensional data,
however, there is no limit to the number of cameras that can be used with
the APAS.  Although individual situations vary, most users find that 2 or 3
cameras provide accurate 3D data measurements.  Some users use an
additional camera as a backup (just in case one of the other cameras does
not record for some reason).


Question 2
==========
>What sort of cameras would be needed? Can you indicate prices?
>
Answer 2
=========
The Basic APAS ($11,500) system does not include cameras.  Cameras are sold
as options in addition to the Basic APAS and may include (but not limited
to) any of the following items.

VHS format camcorder(s) $1500 USD per camera
SVHS format camcorder(s) $3500 USD per camera
Digital 60/120Hz camcorder(s) $3500 USD per camera
High Speed (250-2000 Hz) Starting at $15,000 USD per camera


Question 3
===========
>Do we need one frame graber per camera?
>
Answer 3
=========
The Basic APAS includes a single multi-media compatible frame grabber that
is capable of grabbing either NTSC or PAL format video.  Only one frame
grabber is required as each camera view is captured to the computer hard
disk one at a time.  The video source can be a camera, VCR etc.


Question 4
===========
>How many frames per second can the frame graber record?
>
Answer 4
=========
The number of images captured depends upon the video format.  NTSC format
video is  30 frames (or 60 fields) per second while PAL format video is 25
frames (or 50 fields) per second.  The frame grabber is capable of
capturing either of these formats in real-time from a single camera.

The 120 Hz camera provides an additional option of capturing 120 images per
second, however, these images are 1/2 height and can be captured using the
same frame grabber.


Question 5
===========
>Does your software work on both three and four camera setup?
>
Answer 5
=========
See Answer #1 above.  The Basic APAS supports both 2D and 3D data analysis.
 The only difference between 2D and 3D is the number of cameras that are
used.  The APAS will support any number of cameras.  Any system that limits
the user to 2D analysis is simply playing marketing games.


Question 6
===========
>Are the reflective markers of special make or we can make our own?
>
Answer 6
=========
There is nothing special about the markers.  They can be made of almost
anything.  The software only requires that there be a good contrast between
the marker and the immediate background.  For example, white markers agains
a black background (or vice versa).


Question 7
===========
>How many markers can your software distinguish?
>
Answer 7
=========
The current version of APAS software supports up to 40 markers.  How many
markers do you require?


Question 8
===========
>Has any Ariel system been deployed in Greece?
>
Answer 8
=========
There are several APAS systems already in Greece.
Democritus University of Thrace
Olympic Athletic Center of Athens (old 286 APAS system)
Aristotalee University of Thessaloniki



>Many thanks
>
>Sincerely
>
>Costas Rigas
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Ariel <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
>To: <krigas@cc.uoi.gr>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 11:04 PM
>Subject: Requested Ariel Information
>
>
>> Hello Costas Rigas,
>>
>> Thank you for viewing the Ariel internet site and your interest in the
>> Ariel Performance Analysis System (APAS).
>>
>> The Basic APAS system is sold internationally for $11,500 USD and includes
>> the following:
>>
>> 450 MHz computer
>> 8 GB hard disk drive
>> 64 MB RAM
>> 1.44 MB Floppy Drive
>> CD-ROM
>> Multi-Media compatibel frame grabber
>> Windows 98 Operating System
>> Ariel 2D and 3D analysis software
>>
>> The Ariel software includes capabilities for panning cameras and automatic
>> digitizing functions.
>>
>> Please feel free to contact me for any additional information.  I would be
>> happy to assist.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> John Probe
>>
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
>> 4891 Ronson Court
>> Suite F
>> San Diego, California  92111  USA
>> (858) 874-2547 Tel
>> (858) 874-2549 Fax
>> Email:  ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com
>> Web Site:  http://www.arielnet.com
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>

HI Tony,

Sorry about the delay.  In answer to your questions, this is the equipment I would suggest for a complete Orthopedic, Physical Therapy Clinic:

1. CES Arm/ Leg/  Back Unit
2. CES Multifunction Unit
3. APAS with Analog function
4. EMG/ on CES and APAS

All the above will be less than one Cybex.

The next step would be to add a force plate.  Gideon will handle pricing with you.

Now you have a complete laboratory capable of  (and I cannot think of all possibilities here):
1. Exercise rehabilitation (closed and open loop).
2. Rehab cardiac training.
3. Rehabilitation test and measurement (bilateral limb comparison).
4. Weight loss work training.
5. Precision athletic training for strength, explosive speed and endurance.
6. Biofeedback for sports and rehabilitation training.
7. Personal fitness and rehab training without the trainer being present (program and walk away, exerciser can take self through program.
8. With addition of APAS, precision measurement of performance for cervical spine, lumbar spine, shoulder, elbow, wrist, and total body gait.
9. Ground reaction forces for gait, sports actions, lift posture.
10. Sports performance evaluations for any sport, including equine.
11. Balance testing and training platform.
12. Dynamic EMG monitoring for Exercise and Performance events.
13. Back to work DELTA lift analysis capability.
14. Job site analysis, etc.

If your funds are limited, CES or APAS first depends on the needs of the clinic.  If primarily training and physical therapy, definitely CES.  If test and measurement orientated, definitely APAS.  However, you cannot beat the combination of tools.

As to report capability, each system has the ability to print any data that appears on the screen.  You can select and combine any combination of data, kinematic, kinetic, CES, etc. for presentation.

Further, you can do like I do, export the raw data and do a custom report on Excel or Matlab.  The advantage of this is that you can have a multi page report, customized, created and recreated in minimal time.  I can help you design these reports.

I am sure Gideon will address costs with you.  I can help you show the cost effectiveness of the equipment and how to get multi level return on your investment.

As I mentioned earlier, if you give me more feedback on the client, I can send you complete reports illustrating how we use the systems for various situations.

Hope this is a helpful start.  I am awaiting your next round of questions.  I am sure you will have many more.  Personally, I would love you to implement a system in SA so we can come back and visit.  I miss the Rock Lobster, Prawns and wine!
 

Bob

ps- Check my slide show on Gideon's website for workers compensation stuff.

http://www.sportsci.com/topics/humana1/index.htm
 
 

Hello Olivier,

We are currently using the STUDIO DV capture board made by Pinnacle
Systems.  However, any frame grabber that is IEEE 1394 "FireWire"
compatible should work with the JVC camera. 

The STUDIO DV board includes capturing software, however, the "high-speed"
video has to be extracted into single images.  JVC accomplishes the
"high-speed" by slitting the full size image into either half or quarter
size.  I have attached a description that helps to explain this process.
This is written for NTSC format, but the same principle applies to the PAL
version cameras.

The Ariel Software Drivers for the JVC camera are required to access the
100 and 200 Hz video.  These software drivers are NOT included in the Basic
APAS software and would have to be purchased separately at a cost of
$3,500.00 USD.  NOTE:  Also it is recommended to use the SP mode (not LP
mode) for recordings.

I hope this helps to answer your questions.

Sincerely,

John Probe
Email:  ARIEL1@ix.netcom.com





At 07:11 PM 12/02/2000 +0100, you wrote:
>hi john,
>thank you for your answer;
>
>>If the JVC-9700 camera supports the "high-speed" video mode, then you will
>>require additional software to access the high speed options.  The
>>standard mode should work just fine.
>
>yes, the JVC-9700 camera supports the "high-speed" video mode (100 and 200
>frames/sec in PAL);
>so what is the best product and model to use with APAS for high-speed video
>capture including this additional software (i think it can extract each
>half frame per image!);
>
>thanks
>olivier
>
>_____________________________________________________
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Hello Jiji,
 
Dr. Ariel has forwarded your message to me for a response.  It appears that you have a Sony camera (PAL format).  Once you capture the video to a Microsoft compatible AVI file. the next step is to open the APAS TRIMMER module.  Then follow the steps listed below.
 
1.  Select FILE, OPEN AVI (or select the AVI icon).
2.  Select OPTIONS, VIDEO to open the Video Options menu.  This menu is used to specify several options.
 
Field Order - used to specify the order for the video fields to be displayed.  When the video frame is separated into the odd and even field, some computers play the even field first, while others play the odd field first.  This option is used to set the correct order for your computer.  This is a one-time setting for each computer. 
 
Separate Fields - This option is used to indicate whether the fields need to be separated or not.  When using the computer controlled VCR option for video capture, the individual fields are captured separately and this option should be set to NO (since the fields are already separated).  When capturing in real-time, this option is usually set to YES since the entire video frame (consisting of two fields) is captured.
 
Speed - This option is used to specify the video speed of the captured video.  Unless you are using the JVC High Speed camcorder, this option is usually set to 60/50 Hz.
 
 
Additional information on these items can be found in the Trimmer Module pull-down help menu.  Select OPTIONS, and then VIDEO OPTIONS.
 
Please feel free to contact us for any additional information.
 
Sincerely,
 
John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 2:24 PM
Subject: Jiji

Hello Gideon

My problem at home with my Sony camera , which is doing only 25 frames
second, is that when I want to trim :
- I 've in the option / video of the trimer "separate fields" yes or no
If I put yes , between two image, I've the a little come back
If I put no , I'll have the 2 image both together .
How can I correct that , and if its'nt possible, what protocole of trim do
you propose me.
How do you functionne when you have not the JVC highspeed camecorder ?.

Have a good night

Jiji

Hello Donna,

There are several programs available for the printing, graphing and export
functions.  A brief description of them is listed below.

APAS2TEXT - used to export the data for each individual point that has been
digitized.  This data is exported to ASCII format so the user can perform
"custom" analysis.

APASVIEW - Used to simultaneously display graphs, video, spreadsheet data.

DISPLAY - Very similar to APASView but also includes ability to export the
graphed data to worksheet format for additional analysis by Lotus, Excel
etc.


Each of these modules also have the Windows pull-down help files for
additional information.

I hope this helps to answer your questions.

Sincerely,

John Probe





----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna Ziarkowski" <donnaz@uplink.net>
To: "Gideon Ariel" <ariel1@ix.netcom.com>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: APAS Video Codecs


> John,
>
> Could you tell me what function in APAS 2000 has replaced the
> "graphing"  function of APAS 1997?  I am able to digitize, transform and
> filter but am not quite sure how to graph and export.
>
> Thank you, once again, for your assistance.
>
> Donna
>


 

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