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Purchasing New Equpment

Hello Sahar,

Thank you for your message.  We would be happy to provide anything you
require.  The usual procedure for purchasing the APAS is listed below.

1.  You tell us which items you wish to purchase
2.  We can send a a ProForma Invoice (by Fax or Email) to start the payment
process.  This will list the item costs and shipping charges (if
3.  You send payment by either method listed below.
   a)  Certified check (drawn on US bank) and mailed to
     Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
     4885 Ronson Court, Suite A
     San Diego, California 92111  USA
   b) Electronic Wire Transfer 
4.  When you purchase the "software only" option, you can download the
software directly from the internet (/).
5.  You then Email the System Parameter and Site Code information from your
computer system to Ariel Dynamics.  We will use these numbers to generate a
SITE KEY to activate the software.
6.  Upon receipt of full payment, the SITE KEY will be sent by return Email
7.  You enter the SITE KEY and you are now ready to operate the APAS.

I hope this answers your questions.  Please contact me for any additional


John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Safrushahar Yusoff" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 6:09 PM
Subject: Purchasing APAS System

> Hi, John Probe
> Actually we are confirm to purchase the APAS System
> plus 4 work station - just waiting for the new
> computer.
> Do your company have any contract or something like
> gaurentee for the system and also the procedure to
> purchase - is it we pay first and we get the license
> or else. Please advice me about this coz I need to
> tell my Boss about this procedures.
> Please do not hasitate to contact me.
> Regards
> Malaysia.
> __________________________________________________
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> Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.


Purchasing Options:

Hello Jennifer,

Thank you for your inquiry concerning the Ariel prices.  You can access the
Ariel prices on the Ariel internet site.  The direct address is:


In general, the prices are as follows.

1.  Basic Ariel Performance Analysis System (APAS) software only.
Includes 2D and 3D software for automatic digitizing and panning cameras
Price:  $5,000.00

2.  Basic APAS
Includes: 500 MHz computer, 10 GB hard drive, 64 MB RAM, Multi-media and
DV frame grabbers, CD-ROM and all software in option 1 above.
Price:  $10,000.00

3. APAS-240
Includes everything in option 1 and 2 along with two digital camcorders
capable of 60/120 and 240 Hz video analyisis.
Price:  $17,500.00

4.  Also, with the purchase of any of the above systems, you can purchase
additional systems (software only) for $500 per computer.  This software
can be installed on your existing computers and used to analyze any data
collected with the "master" system.  This is a very useful feature,
especially in the University environment.

There are many other options that can be added to these systems as you can
see on the price list.

As you will find out, the Ariel systems provide many more capabilites and
at a fraction of the cost of any other available systems.  Please refer to
a 3rd party independent study comparing commercially available systems.
This is also published on our internet site at:


Please contact me for any additional information.


John Probe

At 11:27 PM 3/30/00 EST, you wrote:
>To Whom It May Concern:
>I am a Physical Therapy student at SUNY HSC Brooklyn, New York.  I am
>interested in information on the pricing of the Ariel Performance Analysis
>System.  I
>understand there is a wide range of variable that affect the final cost, but
>I would like
>to get a range (from very basic to top-of-the line, everything included). 
>information is for a class assignment (never to be published) comparing
>aspects (including cost) of the ARIEL to other computerized movement
>Thank you in advance for your prompt response.
>Jennifer McNally, SPT
>SUNY HSC Brooklyn
>fax: 718-270-7439
>Get Your Private, Free Email at

Return-Path: <>From: "aida zorrilla & paul scheuer" <>To: "Gideon Ariel" <>Subject: Re: To: Ken PlattDate: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:19:52 -0600X-MSMail-Priority: NormalX-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3

I've been using the system for 2 years already and would like to purchase my own, but would like to have it on a zip disk. What would the cost be? -----Original Message-----

From: Gideon Ariel <>

To: Paul Scheuer <>

Date: Thursday, November 19, 1998 8:24 AM

Subject: Re: To: Ken Platt

HI Paul:

You can download the APAS from the net at </>/ for free and try it.

Gideon Ariel 

At 07:27 AM 11/19/98 -0600, you wrote: >>>>

Ken, Could you please tell me the cost of an APAS system of Zip Disk? No cameras, no VCR, just the older Windows version (the one loaded on Emilie's desk top, differing from the APAS light versions that coordinate with a force plate). Thank you, Paul Scheuer



Hello Steve Bailey,

Thank you for your interest in the Ariel technology.  Unfortunately, there
is no margin in our prices to spend $3,000.00 for an on-site demonstration.
 Our prices are low because we sell directly from our main company. We do
not have to pay the salaries of the "middle-man" and area sales
representatives.  I would like to make the following recommendations to
help eliminate any uncertanties.

First, you should compare all available systems for features and price.  I
fully understand having reservations on purchasing a system because I was
once in the same situation.  I worked in the Anthropometry and Biomechanics
Lab at the Johnson Space Center and was tasked with purchasing a movement
analysis system.  I checked all the commercially available systems by
personally visiting each company.  There was no comparison between the APAS
and other systems!  I purchased a single APAS and was so pleased with the
results that 4 more systems were purchased at a later date.  Please do not
take my word for this.  I encourage you to fully examine all available
systems and compare them feature-by-feature. 

I also want to refer you to a 3rd party independent study performed by Dr.
James G. Richards at the University of Deleware.  Dr. Richards was the
keynote speaker at the Fifth International Symposioum On The 3-D Analysis
Of Human Motion, July 2-6, 1998 in Chattanooga, TN.  His presentation was a
comparison of the commercially available systems for movement analysis.  I
have provided a direct link to his presentation below:


Make certain that you review the full report by scrolling down to the
bottom and selecting the NEXT button for additional pages.

As a second option, you can download the software directly from the Ariel
internet site (/) and evaluate it for 30 days prior to
purchasing.  No other system in the world will let you do this!  You can
find on-line manuals and tutorials for detailed explainations on the APAS
system operation.

Manuals:  /Main/adw-91.html
Tutorials:  /topics/Tutorials/default.htm

Contact existing Ariel customers as a third option.  I know that you have
already visited Dr. Brian Bergemann at Campbell University.  He purchased
the APAS and CES systems at the United States Sport Academy (as well as the
APAS at Campbell University) and used them extensivley for sport analysis.

Other contacts that have multiple APAS systems:

Erik B. Simonsen, Ph.D.
University of Copenhagen, Denmark

Alfred Finch, Ph.D.
Indiana State University

Mike Greenisen, Ph.D.
NASA, Johnson Space Center

Sun G. Chung, M.D., Ph.D.
Seoul National University

Pierre Gervais, Ph.D.
University of Alberta, Canada

Lastly, we would be happy to provide an APAS demonstration at the Ariel
office in San Diego, California.  If you are interested in this option,
please contact us so we can make arrangements for a convenient time.

I hope this provides additional information and several options to help
eliminate any doubts about purchasing the Ariel system.  Please feel free
to contact me for any additional questions.  I would be happy to help.

I look forward to your reply!


John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
4891 Ronson Court
Suite F
San Diego, CA 92111-1815
Tel:  (858) 874-2547
Fax:  (858) 874-2549

At 04:46 PM 6/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Dr. Mr. Probe,
>I am the research coordinator in the Department of Physical Therapy
>Education of Elon College in Elon College, NC. We have been
>communicating with various Ariel employees and have visited the lab at
>Campbell University. At this time it is very likely we will purchase an
>Ariel system for motion analysis. This would include the following:
>1. Software and license for 2 computers        $5500
>2. High precision calibration cube             $1500
>3. Reflective markers (30/order) X 2           $600
>4. 3 Industrial light cameras                  $900
>5. Time code read/write                    $1500
>6. Intreface to forceplate and EMG            $1500
>We also expect to purchase from a local company 1 Super VHS recorder
>($3100), 2 SVHS cameras ($1800 each), and gem locks. In the future we
>hope to purchase up to 4 High speed cameras (120-240 Hz); however, we
>are presently financially limted to the SVHS cameras.
>While we are 90% sure that purchasing an Ariel system is right for us,
>our biomechanist (Sue Chinworth) still has some reservations.
>Consequently, I am writing you to see if you consider the following.
>Will you allow somebody from your company to come to our institution,
>set up and demonstrate the system to us prior to purchase ? If you are
>willing to do so, I believe that I can guarrentee that the individual
>visiting us will walk away with a completed P.O. if we are satisfied. If
>this process is not acceptable to you could you suggest a way that Sue
>C. can get some in depth experience with the system from someone who
>knows it inside and out prior to purchase. Also, if you think we can
>purchase those extra items through you more economically please let me
>Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter. I look forward
>to hearing from you.
>Stephen Bailey, PT, Ph.D.

Hello Susan,

Ariel Dynamics is curently using the JVC digital camcorders.  These cameras
have many advantages since they are battery operated and also support high
speed video analysis.  These cameras do have an S-Video (analog) output
that can be used with your current configuration only for 60 Hz analysis.
However, it is recommended to use the associated digital video hardware.
This includes the Digital Video (DV) capture card, DV cameras and Ariel
Software drivers. 

The Digital Video capture card & software sells for $450

The JVC camera and software drivers for 60 & 120 Hz analysis sells for
$3,500 per camera.

The JVC camera and software drivers for 60/120 & 240 Hz analysis sells for
$5,000 per camera.

The Ariel software drivers are required to extract the high speed data from
the recorded images and is included in the prices listed above.

Please contact us for any additional information.


John Probe

At 05:16 PM 05/09/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>We presently have the Panasonic 60 Hz cameras. We are investigating the
>digital cameras that are mentioned on the website. One thing is
> additional software necessary to integrate the cameras with
>APAS? If so, is the software included in the price of the cameras (or at
>what cost)?
>Thank you.
>Susan A. Chinworth, PhD, PT
>Elon College Dept of PT Education
>2085 CB
>Elon College, NC 27244
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.
4891 Ronson Court
Suite F
San Diego, California  92111  USA
(858) 874-2547 Tel
(858) 874-2549 Fax
Web Site:  /

Hello Gareth,

Thank you for your interest in the Ariel Performance Analysis System (APAS).
The APAS is a 3D video-based movement analysis system which accurately
quantifies function and provides objective data the professional may use to
justify or evaluate treatment.  Areas of successful application for the APAS
include human performance, injury and rehabilitation assessment,
quantification of loss for compensation claims, equipment and product
testing and development, determination of potential or actual risks for
products and activities in liability litigation, as well as applied research
in the areas of orthopedic medicine, therapeutics, and physical training.

The APAS integrates state-of-the-art computer and video processing hardware
with specialized software modules that perform data collection, analysis,
and presentation.  Objective quantifiable documentation is provided for both
2-Dimensional and 3-Dimensional analysis.  Specific points of interest can
be digitized with user intervention or automatically using contrasting
markers.  Stick figures are then generated and can be synchronized with
kinematics data.  Additionally, up to 32 channels of analog data (i.e. force
platform, EMG, goniometers etc.) can be synchronized with the kinematics

The APAS product information can be found on the Ariel internet site
(/).  The direct address to several areas that might be of
interest are listed below.

APAS Product Information

Comparison of Commercially Available Systems

Selected Applications Of APAS

Selected Publications Utilizing the Ariel Technology

You can even download a full version of the APAS for a FREE 30 day trial.

Please review the information and feel free to contact us for any additional


John Probe
Ariel Dynamics, Inc.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Irwin, Gareth" <GIrwin@UWIC.AC.UK>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:05 AM

Dear All
I am looking to purchase a motion analysis system, for the application of
sports biomechanics with a limited Budget. My lab already has a manual
system (TARGET), if anybody is aware of any deals that may allow me to
purchase a automated or semi automated system please email me. The budget I
am talking about is in the region of $78,000(US) or 60,000(UK)

Kindest Regards

Gareth Irwin
Head of Biomechanics
Senior Lecturer

School of Sport, PE and Recreation
University of Wales Institute, Cardiff
Cyncoed Campus
Cyncoed Road
CF23 6XD

tel:  029 2041 6649
fax: 029 2041 6589

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